In 2020, a man killed this judge’s son. He was coming for her

The nation s judges are facing an unprecedented threat at least that s what U S District Judge Esther Salas argues She would know Five years ago she was targeted by an assassin And still she thinks the matter is getting worse The U S Marshals Arrangement which protects the federal judiciary recorded several threats against federal judges between the start of the fiscal year in October and June the New Jersey jurist informed Salon citing information she received from a contact at the agency That number is hastily approaching the total serious threats against federal judges informed in fiscal year and nearly double the threats recorded in fiscal year per Reuters The stakes have only risen during President Donald Trump s time in office as his administration defies lawful court orders federal and elected bureaucrats have maligned and called for jurists impeachment after unfavorable rulings Judges including Salas have been sounding the alarm since before Trump took office Chief Justice John Roberts raised concerns in his year-end overview and indeed Salas has been speaking out for years now primarily motivated by her son Daniel Anderl s murder by a disgruntled litigant who was coming for her But seeing the ongoing erosion in the population s trust in the judicial branch and the escalating threats her colleagues have received this year has pushed her to take her advocacy a step further she noted Related We can t be indifferent Former Supreme Court justice warns Americans freedom is at liability Salas spoke to Salon ahead of the July Speak Up for Justice forum a grassroots monthly webinar advocating for the judiciary At that event she and other judges will discuss how particular citizens personnel rhetoric puts a target on their backs demonstrated by a up-to-date uptick in so-called pizza doxing sending food to a judge s home address and the harm those acts pose to democracy The threats facing judges appeared to weigh especially heavily on Salas this conversation coming just days after she marked the fifth anniversary of her son s tragic death I know what it s like because I lost my only child because I m a federal judge I have to live with that every single day she reported I have to live with the fact that my job cost me the life of my only child and I can tell you that thought alone is enough to keep someone up for days because I m living it This interview has been edited for length and clarity So far this year we ve seen an uptick in the threats against judges FBI agents arresting a judge in Wisconsin the Trump administration ignoring around a third of all major rulings against it across cases according to a Washington Post analysis that came out Monday morning What are you making of this disregard for the judiciary and how is the judiciary navigating this upheaval in this system of checks and balances in our democracy I definitely think that we are in uncharted waters right now as a nation I believe that judicial safety and independence are being threatened on plenty of several fronts I agree with Chief Justice John Roberts in his year-end overview in when he talked about the illegitimate attacks against the judiciary and we re seeing those illegitimate attacks play out in real time Violence I m living proof of that violence Judge John Roemer in Wisconsin Judge Andrew Wilkinson in Maryland the violence just keeps coming and it doesn t seem to be dissipating The chief justice talked about intimidation Well I don t think we ve seen the intimidation in the forms that we ve seen as of late It s bad enough having members of Congress threatening to impeach judges because they disagree with our rulings I ve never seen nor history has ever seen anything like that I think it s bad enough threatening to take judicial actions against judges because you disagree with our rulings instead of utilizing constitutional framework that we ve all been operating under that if you don t agree with a particular judge s ruling you appeal that judge to a higher court and if you don t agree with that higher court you go to the United States Supreme Court Clearly there is a constitutional framework that we ve all been operating under that now seems to be forgotten or is not an acceptable form We need to go to the third illegitimate threat that the chief justice warned us about the spreading of disinformation Continuing to say over and over again that judges are rogue that we re monsters that the system doesn t work because we all have an agenda that we re corrupt that we re biased all of these accusations false accusations are being used to undermine the populace s confidence in the justice system and I think are intentionally being done to dehumanize the judges that sit on the court Let s be clear This is a specific championship plan This is in the playbook of toppling democracies and we re seeing that with the spreading of disinformation that starts at the top and trickles on down Then at last threatening to not follow lawfully entered orders by the court This is in the playbook of toppling democracies and we re seeing that with the spreading of disinformation that starts at the top and trickles on down I want to circle back to intimidations We re seeing powerful people and powerful platforms using those platforms to intimidate the judges That is what chosen of our leaders are intending to do right now and they do that in the form of threatening to impeach us threatening to sue us And let s not forget what we re calling pizza doxing which is outrageous right now not getting enough coverage Hot off the presses here I just sat for a conference planning session last week State judges are getting pizzas It s just not being revealed In Florida there are judges that received pizzas in the name of my murdered son So we now know that the state judges are also getting pizzas at least in Florida And I think if anyone runs it down they re maybe going to find that judges all over this country at the state and municipal level are also receiving these forms of intimidation We need your help to stay independent Subscribe in the modern day to endorsement Salon s progressive journalism On the subject of intimidation that s also one of the things that I required to get your thoughts on particularly the pizza doxing you mentioned I want to ask if you re settled first how did learning of these threats make you feel We just had the fifth-year anniversary of our child s killing of his murder and that was on July and this past Saturday we had to deal with the fifth anniversary His birthday was on July Sandwiched in between July and July was maybe the hardest week for my husband Mark and I to really deal with on this road that we re traveling that is unfathomable My son stands for and I speak of him in present tense everything that s beautiful about life and the gifts that we all derive from our source For me my son he stands for love and light In fact right after his murder I kept saying I have to stay in the light I have to stay in the light and I have to remember him with only love In my mind hate is heavy love is light That was something that kind of was born out of all this pain that we were feeling and to hear and see and watch my son s beautiful name be used to inflict terror and pain on my brothers and sisters on the bench it has set me back I quite frankly continue to move forward but I can t believe the depths that several people will go to without regard to the humanity and without regard to the feelings of his parents left behind I was shocked when the first pizza that we know of was delivered to one of my colleagues on April And that poor colleague had to call me and tell me that he was just informed that Daniel s name was either the recipient or the sender on that pizza The very first pizza that we know of in Daniel s name was delivered to Chief U S District Judge John J McConnell and we re going to hear from him on what that was like to find out that the pizza was in my murdered son s name and how he had to process that phone call and how he had to build up enough strength to call me to tell me this evolution which was of lesson very troubling Michael Loccisano Getty Images A view of the home of U S District Judge Esther Salas on July in North Brunswick New Jersey I can t imagine how harmful that was to you I also yearned to know what did these threats and the rise in these threats tell you about the state and nature of political violence in our country right now It s at an all-time high in my opinion The numbers are showing that it s at an all-time high but I think even the acts of cruelty the lack of empathy the lack of compassion from those that would would engage in such horrific conduct says to me that these are threats with a purpose Let s be clear what all of this is The purpose is to attack the rule of law and in my opinion it s aimed at toppling our democracy There is no doubt in my mind that if these continued threats and attacks against the rule of law continue and persist we all stand to lose as a nation This is why it matters It matters to everyone every one of your viewers every one of your subscribers because the fact of the matter is sometimes we get so busy in our lives we re trying to put food on the table and keep a roof over our head and we re dealing with the bombardment of negative news and what I call distraction We re looking one way then we re looking another then we re looking another and we re not looking at what s really coming that is a systematic attack on the rule of law and that is what is happening There is no doubt in my mind that if these continued threats and attacks against the rule of law continue and persist we all stand to lose as a nation I don t blame people because right now it s hard to really understand from this point of view When you re just struggling to raise your family and keep your job and pay your insurance on your car you can t really think about the true danger that is several feet in front of you I would say feet selected people would argue miles but it s right in front of us And it s sometimes hard for people to say Why does this matter to me And it matters because if you re Jane Citizen John Citizen and you go up against a powerful opponent you want the justice system to be blind You want the judge not to look to see who the parties are You don t want the judge to look to see who has more money who has a better agenda who is this going to help who is this going to hurt No you want the judge to look at the facts and the law and that s it Because if you re Jane Citizen or John Citizen and you ever find yourself on the receiving end of something happening to you by a powerful adversary you don t want the judge worried that that he or she has to follow the powerful adversary because a threat will follow or death will come or they ll be ripped from their position That s why our founding fathers made sure at least at the federal level that Article III judges didn t have to worry about that didn t have to worry that there would be retribution reprisal or death because they were entrusted to do their job for life There are reasons for all of this I understand it s hard out there but I really wish that people would understand the magnitude of what s going on right now As we discussed earlier you ve been an outspoken participant in the Speak Up for Justice forums this year advocating for your fellow judges at the federal state and municipal levels Of discipline you ve been speaking out since the tragic murder of your son in but what about this moment may be motivating you to really push to get your message through to the populace Listen I love this country I love this country with all my heart My son loved this country with all his heart I feel when I think about my mother s life being raised on a farm in Cuba and my father s life in Mexico an understanding that only in America could a girl who grew up being raised by a single mom in Union City New Jersey on welfare living in the projects rise to the level of becoming the first Latina district court judge in the District of New Jersey Only in America That s why I love and I embrace my ethnicity and I embrace my humble beginning because at the end of the day I think it s what makes America beautiful What makes America wonderful is just what we used to often refer to as the melting pot I know what s at stake I m living proof of what will happen if we don t protect our judges The fact of the matter is that I am very worried that we are headed down a road that if we advance down we may never be able to veer onto a democratic road again I know what s at stake I m living proof of what will happen if we don t protect our judges Mark and I just celebrated the fifth anniversary of our only child s death his murder let me say it the right way I wake up every morning and Daniel s the first thing that I think about I go to bed at night and he is the last thing along with my God and my faith and my source that I go to bed at night holding onto clinging to because it is a pain that I can t describe I can t describe what it feels like for Mark and me every day to know that we don t have Daniel that we re never going to be able to be the groom s mom and the groom s dad We re never going to see him get married We re never going to be grandparents We re never going to have those moments that maybe several of us take for granted in this world But I know the pain and that s why I continue to fight because I want to be able to say that I did everything in my power to try to avoid this tragedy from happening again and that I did everything that I could as Daniel s mom to speak to and speak up for justice in this country Start your day with essential news from Salon Sign up for our free morning newsletter Crash Unit With respect to the number of pizzas delivered being an underestimate could you describe how those threats or acts of intimidation come to these judges Are they aware that it is an act of intimidation to start or can it come across as very innocuous you don t really know that you re being targeted until after the fact Now No I ll give you an example of what it s like Not long ago my doorbell rang and I wasn t expecting anyone My husband and I were in the kitchen and my brother who was visiting from out of state was in another room and we started screaming Don t answer the door Don t answer the door And my husband goes Let me look at the camera I mean we re in our home on a weekend and all of us literally stood frozen in fear It turned out it was a friend that was stopping by to visit us but that s the kind of fear that now I think I can say with certainty that judges feel when the doorbell rings and we re not expecting anyone Somebody will say It s a pizza and in the beginning people mentioned Oh pizza and they laugh This is not just a pizza This is bad actors and I am of firm belief this is not a lone guy in a basement These are targeted strategic collaborative acts that are done by several bad actors meant to chill the judiciary meant to scare us It sends messages We know where you live to those poor judges whose children have received pizzas at their own houses in other states You re going to hear from another judge at the forum who s going to talk about how his adult son received a pizza in another state in my son s name When we talk about putting Danny s name associated with the order of these pizzas that is not Oh let me just pick a name It s a name that is chosen intentionally Do you want to end up like Judge Salas Do you want to end up like her murdered son That is an outright threat and that is a threat to chill judges and make judges start thinking Hmm if this is a close call do I want problems Let s be realistic about what that is like for the judge who s human underneath that robe What s that feel like To me these are threats with a purpose These are not random acts of cruelty These are threats with a purpose To your point the nation has been rocked by a number of instances of political violence in latest years Majority of in recent months we saw the assassinations of those state lawmakers in Minnesota and experts I ve talked to pointed to our especially polarized viewpoints right now as part of the reason why we re seeing this uptick in violence How do you see that polarization influencing judges abilities to safely and effectively carry out their duties I honestly can t speak to every judge out there but I know that judges are on the front line protecting democracy We know what s at stake and I believe that judges will dependably honor their oaths Nowadays certainly you don t become a judge just for the position and the prestige because I would even argue now that what has been done to the court has already damaged much of the community s perception as to what it means to be a judge I think we ve already seen a dramatic erosion in the masses s confidence in the judiciary and the justice system That s a sad fact but I think a true one So I do believe that when push comes to shove judges will do the right thing based on the law and will honor their commitment But there must be so much that goes through a judge s mind in terms of I m about to issue a ruling How do I know that my wife is going to be safe How do I know my children are going to be safe What can I do to ensure their safety There s this huge black ominous cloud that is looming over the third branch of executive Again we re human underneath these robes and it is definitely something that I would imagine crosses a judge s mind when assessing how he or she s going to come out in a ruling But I believe in this country I believe in my colleagues I believe in the rule of law and I do continue to have faith that rulings will be rendered based on the facts and the law and only those two things As a federal judge who has been personally touched by that kind of political violence as you described currently what do you feel must be done in order for our nation to move toward a better less violent less polarized future I ve been thinking about that I d love to answer this in two parts The first one is the easier one that we all be impeccable with our words that we ask our leaders to lead responsibly that we ask them to tone down the inflammatory rhetoric and begin to discuss the issues on the merits and stop personalizing the issues and the rulings and the people that make them That is an easy fix If we can all get back to civility if we can all get back to professionalism that s easy and for all of us We can all do it We can all decide that we are going to be impeccable with our word and we are not going to denigrate humiliate and castigate people who don t agree with us people who have a different opinion than our own We could do this at every level of where we are right now If we can all agree that we are going to respect one another and we are going to listen and maybe agree to disagree and not villainize the person that may not see life as you see it that is something we can all do It s easy to do It doesn t require bill It doesn t require anything other than us agreeing that we re going to be more responsible in the words that come out of our mouths The harder fix is how do we protect our information How do we as citizens begin to tighten our internet footprint How are we going to be responsible with how much about us gets out there and for political figures it gets a little harder but there s a way to do it You look at the Anderl Act that passed in December of as a blueprint for the protection of personally identifiable information by judges If politicians required to also consider enacting laws I would say to them Look to the Anderl Act It s a solid piece of provision that took into various considerations including the First Amendment and looks to try to narrowly tailor it so that it protected a legitimate interest in safety for judges and their family members That s a harder issue but I do think every state and U S territory should look to enact laws like the Anderl Act and protect their judges at every level because the Anderl Act only protects federal judges It doesn t protect the state and local judges that need protection as well We need to fund the Anderl Act The Anderl Act passed in and has yet to have a grant effort that is fully funded by Congress We need to have money so that if there is a state or U S territory that necessities startup seed money to create the infrastructure that one requirements to begin to protect this type of information they could come to the federal ruling body and seek at least a loan or seed money with respect to their own state protections of the judiciary and if necessary other inhabitants or covered persons I want us to get back to kindness get back to respecting one another instead of villainizing anyone who you think doesn t agree with you There s so much hate out there right now and we re seeing it from the top down So states need to enact laws The Anderl Act has to get fully funded but the easiest one is the one I started with which was asking our leaders to lead responsibly and in turn toning our own language down so that we are treating each other and living in a more civil and professional and I think just kind place I mean I want us to get back to kindness get back to respecting one another instead of villainizing anyone who you think doesn t agree with you There s so much hate out there right now and we re seeing it from the top down This awful name-calling I mean I can list for you monsters crazy leftist unconstitutional judges deranged coming from the top This kind of language it s just irresponsible It invites people to take matters into their own hands When our leaders speak of us with such disdain it is as if they are saying or green-lighting Go get them It s dangerous and it s going to get someone killed Your point about getting back to kindness do you see that being part of how we protect our democracy moving forward There s a new motto I m using now which is Measured calm yet strong I believe that when we are measured and deliberative and we are calm and we are not mercurial not raging we can make more sound decisions because we re operating using our cortex We re able to think things through deliberate be calm be measured and when workable kind It makes for sound decision-making Whereas when we are angry and fired up and spitting out nonsense and taking firm positions all of that sometimes doesn t make for sound decision-making It s great advice when we can say that there s nothing weak about being kind There s nothing weak about being calm There s nothing weak about being deliberative In fact I think it s a very strong place to start Everyone demands to remember that with respect with civility with professionalism we can get a lot done and maybe we can do something about the senseless violence that seems to be pervading our communities and our justice 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